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THE FALLACY OF BAPTIST BRIDE SUCCESSION

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THE FALLACY OF BAPTIST BRIDE SUCCESSION

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By Ken Blue

I have read the Trail of Blood many times and sold it in our bookstore for years. The little red book is supposed to show that Baptist were the ones who have shed their blood back to John the Baptist. Thus, this is their visual proof for the doctrine of succession of the Baptist Church back to John. Therefore, all other churches are not “true” churches, but are “harlot churches” and not part of “The Bride of Christ.” However, when examined against church history and the Bible, Baptist succession cannot be proven. Why start with John? Did Paul die by the sword? Why not start there? Or, if a blood trail is a proof why not go back the Abel? No one can “prove” their denomination has secession back to John, Jesus or Paul. It is interesting that none of carnal Christians at Corinth claimed to follow John the Baptist. Yet, some were following Apollos.

Some speak of “the church” when speaking of the Great Commission. But, briders do not believe in “the church.” They only believe a local Baptist Church which was birthed by John the Baptist. Even Jesus was a member and baptized into John’s Baptist Church. Thus, they argue that the commissions in the Gospels were not given for the Twelve Apostles to continue preaching the gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven, first to Israel in the land, and then to the dispersed in Gentile nations. (They think the gospel the Apostles preached was the gospel we preach today.) After they fulfilled the commissions to preach to Israelites, they were then, and only then, to preach the same message to the Gentiles.

[perfectpullquote align=”right” cite=”” link=”” color=”” class=”” size=””]Briders do not believe in “the church.” They only believe a local Baptist Church which was birthed by John the Baptist.[/perfectpullquote]

Thus, they argue that the commissions in the Gospels were not given for the Twelve Apostles to continue preaching the gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven, first to Israel in the land, and then to the dispersed in Gentile nations. (They think the gospel the Apostles preached was the gospel we preach today.) After they fulfilled the commissions to preach to Israelites, they will then, and only then, preach the same message to the Gentiles.

However, no local Baptist churches have ever obeyed these commissions from the time of Christ to the present, nor can they. We challenge any Baptist bride church to prove they obey the commissions, including Mark 16. They cannot, nor will they ever do it.

 

 

 

MORE BAPTIST BRIDE BOLOGNA FROM THE DEEP FREEZE

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AUDACITY OF THE BAPTIST BRIDE

By Ken Blue

Several years ago I wrote a book called, Baptist Brider Bologna. I had no idea just how thick the bologna was until a fellow pastor called my attention to a Baptist Bride webpage. It contained the article below. We could title it “The Switch and Bait Game.”

 Briders believe they have the only correct doctrine, and therefore, only those who embrace it are Christians. You may be saved and in the family of God, but if you are not of their cut, you are not in the bride. You will notice that they make the word Christian synonymous with a Baptist Brider. Then they say if you don’t accept their Baptist teaching, you are not a Christian.

What all that means is, if you aren’t baptized by someone, who was baptized by someone, who was baptized by John the Baptist, you are not a Christian. If you are not a member of a Baptist Bride Church, you are not a Christian. If you do not have closed communion, you are not a Christian. If you fellowship with anyone who is not a Brider, you are not a Christian. If you use any Bible except the King James Bible, you are not a Christian. If you don’t believe in eternal security, you are not a Christian. If you are baptized by anyone except a Brider Pastor, you are not a Christian. If you are not faithful to all the Baptist Church services, you are not a Christian. If you don’t tithe, you are not a Christian. If you don’t go soul winning, you are not a Christian. If you disagree with the pastor, you are not a Christian. And, if the sign on your church doesn’t say Baptist, you probably aren’t a Christian. We say “nuts” to all this!

[pullquote align=”right” cite=”” link=”” color=”” class=”” size=””]Baptist Briders believe they have the only correct doctrine[/pullquote]

What these birds have done is set up a series of personal standards and doctrines, they think early believers believed and practiced. Then they teach that these original believers constituted the Baptist Bride Church, whose members lived by those standards. Adherence to their Baptist teachings identified them as Christians. Therefore, if you do not accept their Baptist Bride doctrines and behavior, you are not a Christian. It’s that simple, boys and girls.

Non-Baptist Christians?

Posted by JTR on 7/01/2010

“While some Baptists understand the absurdity of making a distinction between church history and Baptist history many would still refer to non-Baptist believers as Christians. I don’t believe that you can be a Christian without being a Baptist. I did not say you can’t be saved without being a Baptist and that would be absurd because you cannot become a Baptist until being baptized after salvation. The question must be asked, “What is a Christian?” A Christian is not just one that trusts Christ as their Savior. A Christian is one who is a follower of Christ – including AFTER salvation. May I say that one who gets saved and then backslides or never grows in the Lord is not a Christian. They may have trusted in Christ but they are not following Christ in their life. To be a Christian is to follow the ways and teachings of Christ. How could a believer be a Christian without being a member of the institution of the local church which He started? How could a saved Methodist be a Christian with their infant baptism? How could a Pentecostal believer be a Christian with their speaking in tongues? How could a Church of Christ member be called a Christian when they are trusting in baptism for salvation? How could a Presbyterian believer be a Christian when they don’t believe in eternal security and practice sprinkling? Being a Christian is more than believing in Christ and going to a church that historically believes in Christ instead of other gods. As Spurgeon said, ‘We believe that the Baptists are the original Christians.’ As Baptists we don’t treat the polity of new testament churches as optional suggestions and we don’t add to our practices the contradictory writings and creeds of men. If Jesus were physically on earth today he would be a member of a Baptist church because a (true) Baptist church is a practical copy and an actual descendant of the church that Christ started during His earthly ministry. Don’t be ashamed my brethren, only Baptists are Christians.”

(Emphasis is mine. I am not ashamed to be a Baptist; I am ashamed of some Baptist!) 

BRIDER SAYS TRANSLATORS OF THE KING JAMES BIBLE NOT CHRISTIANS

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By Ken Blue

According to Baptist briders, not one of the men who translated the King James Bible was a “true Christian.” The following quote is from an article by a brider. “I don’t believe that you can be a Christian without being a Baptist.” If the brider is correct, we are preaching and teaching from a Bible that was translated by non-Christians.

If Baptist are the only Christians, that means that Baptist are singing songs in every service that were written by non-Christians. Most of the books in their office and colleges were written by non-Christians, if the briders definition is correct.

What shall we think of such men as Martin Luther, John Calvin, John and Charles Wesley, Charles Spurgeon, Billy Sunday, Jack Hyles, Tom Malone, Bob Jones Sr., and a host of others? What of the Disciples, and the Church at Corinth? Was Peter a Christian when he denied the Lord three times, and was called Satan? Was Thomas a Christian when he and the Disciples refused to believe in Christ’s resurrection? Were the believers in Corinth Christians? Will our brother admit that there are multitudes in the Baptist bride churches who are not Christians, or do all in the bride obey ALL that Jesus commanded?

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 So, we must conclude that we have a King James Bible given to us by non-Christians. Our song book is filled with songs written by non-Christians, and some of the greatest believers since Paul were non-Christians. This, I say is nonsense; and they call us hyper-dispensationalist?   This is an example of church theology gone amuck.

 

BAPTIST BRIDERS AND REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

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Difficulties with Briders Doctrine

By Ken Blue

Recently an article by a Baptist Brider came to my attention. The following quote was the first paragraph. “When did the church start? Baptists, being dispensationalists and not replacement theologians, believe that the church is a New Testament institution so we know that we can find its origins within the borders of the New Testament Scriptures.”

The first mistake our brother makes is his reference to “the church.” You see, in Baptist Bride doctrine, there is no such thing as “the Baptist church.” There are only individual local churches. Now, I am aware that he may have been thinking of only one local church at the time, but I doubt it.

Baptist Briders believe their baptism is the door to the local church. Next, their local church is the bride of Christ. Therefore, you must be baptized into a Baptist Bride church to be in the bride. In fact, years ago, whenever you moved from one Baptist Bride church to another, you had to be rebaptized, because water baptism was the only key to each local church.

This practice became monotonous and burdensome, so a convenient transfer method was devised. It was called a Transfer of Membership letter. However, anyone can see the hypocrisy of this act. If the only church that exists is a local Baptist Bride church, and it alone is the bride of Christ, and the only way into it is Baptist Bride baptism, how does a letter, replace baptism? It cannot, unless you believe a universal Baptist Bride church exist, and one baptism will work for all of them.

[pullquote align=”right” cite=”” link=”” color=”” class=”” size=””]If Baptist Briders are not replacement theologians, why is John’s baptism, the parables of Jesus, His teaching and miracles attributed to the Baptist Church?[/pullquote]

Also, there was a Jewish church. (“This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:” Acts 7:38 .) It would be interesting for someone to show us where and when that church ceased to exist. If Baptist are not “replacement theologians” why do they insert themselves in the upper room, replacing the “the little flock” to whom Jesus was going to give the Kingdom of Heaven? (“Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.” Luke 12:32.)

If Baptist Briders are not replacement theologians, why is John’s baptism, the parables of Jesus, His teaching and miracles attributed to the Baptist Church? And, at what point was the nation of Israel rejected? What did God take from Israel and give the Baptist according to Luke 12:32? “Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.” “Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.” Matthew 21:43. Is the Baptist Brider that kingdom and nation? If so, was it taken away from Israel in Matthew 3? If it was taken from Israel and given to John the Baptist and his followers, wouldn’t that be a replacement??

A follow-up question is, can you pinpoint where the New Testament began? (“16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.”) Hebrews 9:16-17. Even a casual reading of the Gospels, reveals that everyone was operating under the intent of the Law during our Lord’s Jewish ministry. See Matt. 5:17, 18; 7:12; 8:4; 11:13; 22:40; Mark 1:44; Luke 2:22-24, 27, 39; 5:14, 16:16.

There are Bible believers who believe the church began in Matthew, 3, 16, 27; Acts 2, 9, 28, can you prove where it started? The reason many have no idea when the church started is their replacement theology.

Since a covenant and a testament are not the same, and the Old and New covenants were made with Israel, to whom and to what did the new testament testify? Can you describe the difference between a covenant and a testament? The confusion of Baptist Briders on these, and many other subjects, forces them to embrace replacement theology.

DOES YOUR CHURCH TEACH COMMANDMENTS OF MEN?

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SOME COMMANDMENTS OF MEN REVEALED

commandBy Ken Blue

“6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.” Mark 7:6-9.

A little leaven does leaven the whole. Nowhere is this more evident than in the preaching and teaching of many who assume they are teaching God’s will. Your church may be guilty. If so, you should get back to the Word of God, rightly divided, and get the leaven out.

One of these is the teaching that men who have long sideburns or hair over the collar is against God’s Word. It is not! This is a teaching and commandment of men. Many Christians are judged on these matters and treated as if they are going against God’s commandments. The length of a man’s hair is not a measurement of his love for God.

Another teaching of man is that women must never wear anything but a dress. This is another false doctrine. There is not one thing in the church epistles on how women must dress. These are commandments of men who lay burdens on the backs of believers.

A third doctrine taught by men, is that the only church in the Bride is certain Baptist Churches. This teaching cannot be supported or proven from the Bible. Right division would put the Baptist bride doctrine to bed forever. In fact there is no proof that any church is the bride.

Another false doctrine taught by man is that certain musical instruments are unscriptural, anti-scriptural or that musical instruments are amoral. The issue is how they are used. Most of the brethren are under bondage of this false commandment of men about instruments.

[pullquote align=”right” cite=”” link=”” color=”” class=”” size=””]We need to do intense self searching to get the leaven out…[/pullquote]

Another false teaching of men is that God never intended for the unsaved to come to church. The teaching is that the only acceptable evangelism is for the church to “go out” and win people to Christ before they are invited to church. This doctrine is false, unscriptural and anti-scriptural. You should get as many lost people to your church as you can, and then preach the gospel to get them saved.

Another false doctrine taught by some is that it is un-scriptural or anti-scriptural to have Powerpoint and prerecorded music in the services. It is not wrong to use any technology that will help your church.

These are just a few of the many “doctrines of men” found in many Baptist churches. We need to do intense self searching to get the leaven out, and to make sure what we are teaching people is in harmony with the right division of God’s Word, and not the commandments and doctrines of men.