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WHAT DO MORMONS BELIEVE? LET THEM TELL US

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By Ken Blue

It is recorded that Smith had at least 33 wives. He said the angel of the lord promised to kill him if he did not take many wives and teach others to do likewise.  The following comes from two Mormons who responded to a previous article I posted. One has been a member of the Mormon Church for 40 years.

I WILL  MARK MY COMMENTS IN BOLD .

“1.   Polytheism:  “Mormons”… only worship one God.  Do we believe that other gods exist?  You bet we do.”

Mormons attempt to make the case that Bible believers also believe in more than one God. Since they reject the teaching of the Trinity, they assume we believe in three gods. No such luck.

In the Bible, God clearly teaches there is: “No God beside Me.”  Here are some examples:

  1. Beside Me there is no Savior (Isaiah 43:11).
  2. Beside Me there is no God (Isaiah 44:6).
  3. Is there a God beside Me? yea, there is no God; I know not any (Isaiah 44:8).
  4. There is no God beside Me (Isaiah 45:5).
  5. There is none beside Me (Isaiah 45:6).
  6. There is no God else beside Me (Isaiah 45:21).
  7. There is none beside Me (Isaiah 45:2)

[pullquote align=”right” cite=”” link=”” color=”” class=”” size=””]Do we Mormons believe that other gods exist?  You bet we do![/pullquote]
Four Similar Expressions Elsewhere:

  1. He is God; there is none else beside Him (Deut. 4:35; cp. Deut. 32:39).
  2. There is none beside Thee (1 Samuel 2:2).
  3. There is none like Thee, neither is there any God but Thee (2 Samuel 7:22; 1 Chron. 17:20).
  4. There is no Savior beside Me (Hosea 13:4).

2. “…multiple wives:  this is not a “teaching” or even a doctrine of our Church.  We very much believe that marriage can exist beyond this mortal life.  We also believe and acknowledge that righteous men, including prophets, were granted by God in biblical times to have more than one wife. So, if  you put the two together, I suppose I can see where some would say “Mormons believe that they can become gods and that they’ll all have multiple wives”.  If marriage does exist beyond death, what of the multiple wives? You will note that the mormon with 40 years experience says they will have their wives.

3.  “Sex in heaven.  Here’s what I do know:  resurrection is a reality.  You and I will be resurrected because of Jesus’ wonderful gift of resurrection.  That means our bodies will be restored after death just like His body was restored.  That means our entire body – why would we not have all parts  restored?  (The restored parts are the sex organs)  And add to that our belief that marriage can exist beyond this mortal life,  you could conclude that sure, husband and wife can continue to have and enjoy the God-given gift of sexual relations with each other.”  He admits that Mormons will have their wives in heaven, and the resurrected will have all parts restored. He means all reproductive parts!

4.  “Spirit babies?  I’ve never in my life heard that term or phrase in my Church. Perhaps unique to us, is that we believe that we lived with God prior to this life as well – in spirit form.  We believe that God created us as spirits prior to this life.  Then at birth, our spirits are clothed in a physical body, which at death is separated from our spirit.  I have no idea how God created us spiritually.” He admits Mormons existed in heaven and are incarnated in babies at birth. He says he does not know how God “created” these spirits. Many Mormon leaders teach that the Mormon god has these spirit babies with his many wives.

5.  “You also state that the reason the Church practiced polygamy back in the 1800’s was based on your “spiritual babies” doctrine.  That’s absolutely false.  If you heard that somewhere, it was truly false mormon doctrine.  Polygamy is not a practice of our Church and was only a practice for a small amount of time…..  But I can tell you, for certain, it had nothing to do with “spiritual babies”.  That is totally false – as is the spiritual babies thing. The doctrine of “spirit babies” is not my doctrine.” It is a doctrine of the Mormon Church, and documentation exists.

6.  “You state “most Mormons don’t want the general public to know these vital doctrines of their church”.  That’s also very false.  I have nothing to hide.  I would never hide that.  Likewise, I would never hide the fact that I believe that God loves us so much that He would make it possible for us to be together as families throughout eternity.  Those, I do believe are “vital beliefs”.  Why would I hide that?  Your other statements about “sex with multiple wives” and “spiritual babies” and “becoming gods!” – those aren’t “vital” beliefs, nor are they even “beliefs”.”

7. “Finally, why do you not share with your readers the many wonderful things our Church does and teaches that surely you would appreciate – the fact that we teach kindness, charity, love, and strong family relationships?  The fact that we teach the blessings of avoiding drugs and alcohol abuse?  The fact that we teach to do good in the community and to defend other’s beliefs, even if they are not our own? The fact that we stand for marriage between a man and a woman more so than any other faith.  I’m not asking you to promote us… I’m just asking you to be fair.  I’m asking you to help your readers to learn how to receive positive examples from any source or religion.  You don’t have to join a group to recognize the good in their organization.  I’m sure you feel justified in “helping” your readers to beware of the “evils” of “Mormonism”.  But I will tell you this – I would never blog about and tear down your beliefs.  I would only share what I believe in without harming another’ s beliefs.”

If one read my first post on Mormons, he will see that it was not an attack on any good works they may have done. “This is not intended to be an attack on the moral character of individual Mormons.” Good works are not a substitute for false doctrine. And I assure you that the teachings of Mormonism are false from beginning to end.

Another Mormon responded saying, “Haha I’m sorry, but none of this is correct. I am LDS and I’ve never heard this.  We believe in God-singular, Jesus Christ-the son, and the Spirit of God. We call it the Godhead; don’t other Christians just call it the trinity? We do not know the reasoning of the Lord and so doctrines such as polygamy were followed when given, and given up when instructed to do as such. We don’t practice polygamy and we don’t have reason why it used to be taught. We believe wives and all other people will be resurrected one day whether their spouse is “pleased” with them or not. Our church does not hide anything. All the doctrines, ordinances, and procedures can be found in the Bible, the Doctrine and Covenants…”

I know for a fact Proof is abundant. Read my other blog on Mormons.

 

A DOCTRINE MORMONS WISH WOULD GO AWAY, THE BLACK RACE

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MORMON MARK PETERSEN

(DNA VS. THE BOOK OF MORMON)

 

By Mark E. Petersen
“At Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah, August 27, 1954, at the Convention of Teachers of Religion on the College Level, Petersen delivered a speech on “Race Problems –As They Affect The Church”. The speech outlined the religious underpinnings of segregation, and supported the continued practice of segregation as it related to intermarriage between blacks and whites…In April 1944, while serving as general manager of the Deseret News, Petersen was called to be a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.” From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
• We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that, we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that they used to say about sin, “First we pity, then endure, then embrace.”
• Is there reason then why the type of birth we receive in this life is not a reflection of our worthiness or lack of it in the pre existent life? We must accept the justice of God. He is fair to all. With that in mind, we can account in no other way for the birth of some of the children of God in darkest Africa, or in flood ridden China, or among the starving hordes of India, while some of the rest of us are born in the United States? We cannot escape the conclusion that because of performance in our pre existence some of us are born as Chinese, some as Japanese, some as Indians, some as Negroes, some as Americans, some as Latter day Saints. There are rewards and punishments, fully in harmony with His established policy in dealing with sinners and saints, rewarding all according to their deeds.
• In this birth control effort man places himself in direct opposition to the plan and laws of God. The Almighty made this world, and He made us. All human beings are His children, His spirit offspring, and it is His intention to provide each one of us with a body of flesh and bones. This body is essential to eternal progress. With this in mind He gives us the powers of procreation and permits us to join with Him in a divinely sponsored act. But by preventing or aborting legitimate births, we oppose this plan. His spirit children are born into bodies of flesh and bones by His own design. Then who are we to prevent it?
• Some who have been perfectly healthy and able to bear children have avoided this responsibility, and in doing so have resorted to the use of harmful practices and devices resulting often in physical injury to the wife and demoralization to both parties. Some have wondered if the Church would approve such practices. Of course it never has and never could.
• I think the Lord segregated the Negro and who is man to change that segregation? It reminds me of the scripture on marriage, “what God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.” Only here we have the reverse of the thing—what God hath separated, let no man bring together again.
• From this and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage. This is his objective and we must face it.
• Now what is our policy in regard to intermarriage? As to the Negro, of course, there is only one possible answer. We must not intermarry with the Negro…
• What is our advice with respect to intermarriage with Chinese, Japanese, Hawaiians and so on? I will tell you what advice I give personally. If a boy or girl comes to me claiming to be in love with a Chinese or Japanese or a Hawaiian or a person of any other dark race, I do my best to talk them out of it… I teach against inter marriage of all kinds.
• Now let’s talk about segregation again for a few moments. Was segregation a wrong principle? When the Lord chose the nations to which the spirits were to come, determining that some would be Japanese and some would be Chinese and some Negroes and some Americans, He engaged in an act of segregation.
• When he told Enoch not preach the gospel to the descendants of Cain who were black, the Lord engaged in segregation. When He cursed the descendants of Cain as to the Priesthood, He engaged in segregation.
• Who placed the Negroes originally in darkest Africa? Was it some man, or was it God? And when He placed them there, He segregated them.
• The Lord segregated the people both as to blood and place of residence. At least in the cases of the Lamanites and the Negro we have the definite word of the Lord Himself that he placed a dark skin upon them as a curse as a punishment and as a sign to all others. He forbade intermarriage with them under threat of extension of the curse. And He certainly segregated the descendants of Cain when He cursed the Negro as to the Priesthood, and drew an absolute line. You may even say He dropped an Iron curtain there.
• Mark E. Petersen, Race Problems As They Affect The Church, Convention of Teachers of Religion on the College Level, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah, August 27, 1954

 

FIRST IMPRESSIONS

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CHANGING TIRES

 

 

 

 
By Ken Blue

 #2

(MORMON SCIENTIST DISPROVE MORMONISM THROUGH DNA, AND THE LACK OF LINGUISTIC,AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE.)

Not far from our church is a Les Schwab Tire store. Our family has done business with them for years, and we have found them to be true to their slogan, “If We Can’t Guarantee It, We Won’t Sell It!”®

The first thing that impresses you when you park in their lot is the young man who hurries to greet you as you get out of your car, and ask “how he may assist you?” He is quick to answer your questions and escort you to those who can help.

The first time I saw similar service in a Baptist church was in Anchorage, Alaska. When we parked, a young man greeted us as we opened the car door, welcomed us, and introduced us to one of the church ushers.

Since first impressions are lasting, perhaps we should give this act of hospitality some consideration. I wonder what first impression it would make on our guest if a church member opened the car door for them, warmly welcomed them, and walked to the church entrance with them? I was just wondering, since it’s all about the service.