The atheist can’t lose his soul; he doesn’t believe he has one
He can’t lose his faith; he doesn’t have any
He can’t lose his argument; he has nothing to prove
He can’t lose his faith about where he came from. He came from stardust, to slime, to his present state.
He can’t lose his purpose for existence; he doesn’t have one.
He can’t lose his morals; there’s no such thing.
He can’t lose his belief that there is right or wrong. They don’t exist.
He can’t lose the argument that rape, murder, theft, pedophilia, profanity, lying and race decimation are wrong. To him, right and wrong are inventions of religion and governments to control people.
He can’t lose a belief that man is more valuable than a rat, for both are the processes of evolution.
He can’t lose his hope of anything after death; He has none.
He can’t lose any sleep over six million Jews being exterminated, or the present wars, for all are birth pangs of the upward evolutionary process.
The atheist has nothing more to lose than Bossy the cow, or Rex the dog. There must be a lot of pride and comfort in being an atheist.
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Pastor Ken Blue was born in Boswell, Ark. In 1955 he accepted Christ as his Savior. He and his wife Joyce were married in 1955. They have 5 children. He graduated from Midwestern Baptist Bible College in 1969 and started the Open Door Baptist Church in Lynnwood, Wa. where he pastored for 39 years. Because of health issues (ALS) he was forced to resign as pastor. It is his desire to continue to be used of God to help pastors and believers through this ministry.
Very informative.
I remember going to your church before you retired and visiting. I think that was winter 2007. I do know that a young man had slipped in the parking lot and got taken to the hospital that morning before church started. I was staying 2 miles down the road in a relative’s house who were(and still are) Jehovah’s Witnesses. I was a brand new(newborn:))Christian and needed to hear the Word of God. I remember every effort they tried to keep me from going to church that morning. I also remember the Lord making a way for me to go to listen to you and being encouraged. Thanks to iTunes,I have found you again. I still listen to your teachings. Some are on cassette.(u read that right) They never get old. Thank you for your work for Jesus! I will be a regular to this site. Your words are awesome as usual. May the Lord continue to bless you and keep you in His care!
in Christ,
SDeyo
God bless you Stephanie. Open Door is under great leadership with their new pastor.
That’s good to hear. I just listened to the sermon you gave before Memorial Day. Excellent as always. Thank you for your message. Pray for me….I love cats.(lol)
shut up
I am a little surprised that the best response the atheist can give is “shut up.” You would think, with their advanced knowledge, they would rebuff with some scientific or intellectual reasoning.
Evidently my atheist critic doesn’t believe in freedom of speech for everyone. He wants me to “shut up” while he spouts off. Evolution is a tricky business. Since I am not sure which one of us is furthers up the evolutionary chain, I think I’ll not “shut up.” We can’t wait for him to catch up.
LOL Ken! You’re so silly! What makes more sense? Being made up of dirt, or evolving from primates?
I find it troubling that people believe atheist lack morals, or a meaning in life. We simply don’t believe in any deity. Morality is not strictly a theist trait. Understanding right and wrong is fundamental to society. We still feel joy from doing good things and making other happy. We still feel sorrow for those who’s lives have been cut short. After all atheist believe this is our one and only life, we should cherish it as much as a theist cherishes the thought of an after life. Morality is possible with out god.
To argue who is right and who is wrong is foolish. Atheist require proof to believe and theist require faith. There is a no middle ground in such an argument. What I suggest is we stop the hateful rhetoric claiming one side is evil or stupid and instead accept that we have different views but in the end we all have the capacity to do good.
We are all atheists. I just believe in one less god than you do. When you figure out why you don’t believe in all of those other gods, you will understand why I don’t believe in yours.
To say that atheists don’t have morals or believe in right or wrong is a despicable statement. I don’t need a book to tell me what is right and what is wrong.
And to suggest that atheists don’t lose any sleep over war and war atrocities couldn’t be more wrong. Religion is the excuse for almost all wars, including the ones we are involved in now. And the fact that I don’t believe in life after death makes my time and your time on earth more precious, as well as the time of all of the people whose life was cut short during war. In the name of someone’s god.
Mike, surely you don’t believe what you are saying. If you are an atheist, you don’t believe in any deity. Secondly, I figured out a long time ago why I don’t believe in all those other gods you imply you believe in. Also, it was easy for me to figure out why I could never be an atheist. It could be that I have evolved further up the chain. It’s hard to tell, when considering evolution. If everything is evolving, we are all part of a not-planned and non-purposed process. Who can find fault with any of us?
You say, “To say that atheists don’t have morals or believe in right or wrong is a despicable statement. I don’t need a book to tell me what is right and what is wrong.” No, you don’t need a book to tell you right from wrong. But, you need one to tell you about evolution and atheism.
Again, you say, “Religion is the excuse for almost all wars, including the ones we are involved in now.” Although, there is much truth in that statement, I can show you more wars and people murdered for other reasons than religion. You should include them. And, since you don’t need a Book, how can you prove that any war is amoral? How can the other persons morals be wrong that are contrary to yours? Remember; the survival of the fittest? Since you have a moral code, perhaps you can tell us it’s authority.
Jeff says, “Morality is not strictly a theist trait. Understanding right and wrong is fundamental to society.” We never question that atheist have their own set of morals and standards. However, I am not sure they understand right from wrong. Was it wrong for Hitler to kill over 6000,000 Jews? Was it wrong to not allow blacks to vote? Is it wrong for Muslims to be-head those who disagree with them? Their society believes it is right. Our society believes it is wrong. Who is right?
Jeff continues, “To argue who is right and who is wrong is foolish. Atheist require proof to believe and theist require faith. There is a no middle ground in such an argument.” Jeff, you have your argument confused. It is never wrong to argue your point if it is important to you. Secondly, your comment that atheists require proof and theist require faith shows your confusion. Jeff says “atheists require proof to believe.” The problem is, proof for evolution does not exist. They simply BELIEVE what they are told. They should remove faith and believe from their vocabulary.
Going off that picture at the top, I mean if you take any religion like that it sounds dumb and honestly outright offensive. In the same sense of the picture up there this is Christianity: The belief that a zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove all evil force from your soul, that is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree…makes perfect sense. See what I mean.
I was raised in a Christian home and learned all kinds of things from the bible, and well, I never believed a word of it. I do have morals and I know the difference between right and wrong, and that has zero to do with whether or not I believe in a magical man in the sky who grants wishes.
You said ^ up there “The problem is, proof for evolution does not exist. They simply BELIEVE what they are told. They should remove faith and believe from their vocabulary.”
Where is your proof that god exists? The bible? Hate to tell you but the bible is a book. Granted, it does have some good things in it and many of our laws are based off it and that’s fine but comparing what is in the bible and science (ie rock layers and that kind of thing) I would choose science. If that picture on the top is how you are trying to convince people to become Christian by mocking something you don’t believe, you aren’t doing a great job.
As I said I was raised in a religious household and instead of making fun of people of different religions they tried to help them and showed them the Christian spirit. Christian means ‘like Christ’ As far as i know Jesus didn’t stand around making fun of people but rather, helped them through whatever it was that they needed. Maybe if you spent more time being kind and less time mocking more people would come and hear about Christianity.
Of course the image up their is actually funny in a sense, the things said underneath it are not. ‘He can’t lose any sleep over six million Jews being exterminated, or the present wars, for all are birth pangs of the upward evolutionary process.’ Actually, when I learned about this for the first time I cried. I really did. To say that basically atheists dont care about that is a big dumb gly and horrible lie. That offends me more than anything else about this. I can deal with you saying i dont have moral, I can deal with you saying basically that I am dumb but my grandfather was in Aushwitchs. So you know what, if there is a god, and he is, in fact all knowing, you sure as heck embarrass him.
At any rate, have a nice day.
Sarah, I can tell from your response that you have contempt for people who are critical of what you do and do not believe. Your response drips with sarcasm from beginning to end. I will file your first paragraph the same place you have the Bible. Of course evolution makes perfect sense. You know what I mean. At least you are honest about one thing; “I was raised in a Christian home and learned all kinds of things from the bible, and well, I never believed a word of it.”
I have no doubt that you have morals, and believe there is a right and wrong. God has programmed you that way. However, you cannot hold to the teaching of atheism and evolution and know what is right or wrong.
You say you believe in evolution. That is my point. You “believe.” Present your “proof.” Also, I am not attempting to win you to a “zombie.” You made up your mind to reject the Bible when you were a child.
Like most dishonest people, you castigate the Bible, God, and Jesus Christ, but you quote them when you think it serves your purpose. See your fifth paragraph.
I am sorry for your loss. However, it appears that you do not fully understand the teaching of evolution; if you did, you would not be offended at my statement. I am sure I have been an embarrassment to God many times. After reading your first paragraph, I’m not sure anything would embarrass you.
You have a nice day also.
Im an Atheist and i tell you good sir i am OutRaged. God Sucks science Rulez.
Amen Ken. Your comebacks are great.
Who are you “outraged” at? It couldn’t be God. It would be silly to admit that you are mad at a God that doesn’t exist. Secondly, you think “science rules.” You must be joking. You have no scientific proof for evolution. Christians take the Bible and belief in God by faith. Atheist require faith in books about science as well. Evolution is a philosophy, not a science and must be accepted by faith alone. If you have scientific PROOF of evolution, present it. However, we can’t wait billions and billions of years.That would require lots of faith, wouldn’t it?
I know these comments are old, but I couldn’t help it notice that no one seem to correct the picture up the top. Atheism just means “A lack of belief in the existence of god or gods”. Nothing more, nothing less. Check out the link below:
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=define%3A+atheistism&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=9vV&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&q=atheism&tbs=dfn:1&tbo=u&ei=wQyFT4PPKKPjmAW10KDMBw&ved=0CCwQkQ4&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=277d1bcc24ee76c4&biw=1680&bih=920
Atheism has nothing to do with the two theories the picture is mentioning.
First one theory is evolution, which tries to explain how animals came to be diverse and different today. Has nothing relating to the start of how everything started just on Earth. You can observe this through the different breeds of dogs’ man has bred each breed for. Just one example of many, but this comment is long enough as it is.
Just because we don’t know doesn’t mean we should go god did it as a default answer. It is an unknown, so by trying to further our knowledge we might one day understand.
The second theory is the big bang, which does go into the theory of the beginning of the universe as we know it today. I’m not a physicist so I don’t fully understand it, but again, I don’t go, “I cannot explain or understand it, therefore god”
It is common that atheist may follow science, but doesn’t mean they have to. They could believe nothing other than space monkeys created everything, or something equally as crazy if they wanted.
Plus s Buddhist could be seen as an atheist, since they don’t believe in any god or gods, they believe in a spiritual realm, enlightenment, and Buddha was just a teacher of his way, no way seen a god.
As for the morals for atheists, to say we have none is ludicrous. This link may or may not clear things up:
http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Morality
Hope this clears things up and hope people will reply.
God is not a default answer. He is The Answer. It is interesting how many times you use the word “theory.” There is a world of difference between a theory and true science, and the changes within a species, and the evolution of a man from a tadpole. We all understand the selective, and interbreeding within a “kind.” God created the species “after their kind.” There is not, nor has there ever been one shred of proof for transmutation. The missing link is still missing. I don’t know about a monkey in space, but by your own admission, something made a monkey out of you. Also, what are morals? Was it immoral to kill six million Jews, to not allow blacks to vote, to kill unborn babies, and to practice sodomy? You see, since you are your own god, your morals adjust according to your own preferances. To bad you don’t know where you came from, why you are here, and no place to go.
Not only is this a highly unrealistic portrayal of what atheism is, but judging from your replies to other people you lack any modesty to even consider that what you believe could be false. Yes, there is countless of evidence that supports evolution, and I doubt you went out of your way to actually research the subject with an open mind. Your attitude towards opposers and atheism is quite smug, and I assure you if your jesus was conscious he would surely be disappointed in you. How can someone like yourself claim that scientific minds who learn about subjects that contradict religious teachings are just believing whatever they are reading/told to, when the exact same thing can be applied to your acceptance of Christianity? And I would really like to read your reasons for not believing in other deities and creation stories. Concluding that an opposing opinion/theory/fact is false before even acknowledging (or even listening) whether it could be true is no way to debate about what is truth.
. No, my portrayal of atheism is right on, and concerning your judgment of my modesty, I can tell from your attempted defense of atheism, that you are a rather modest person yourself. Also, you know nothing about my research of atheism, but I would be more than willing to consider any facts you have about existence and evolution. Also, you are so conceded that you reference a person you don’t even believe, and assume He would have your high standard of morals.
You ask about my faith in a Book. That is all you have. Bring on your facts, if you can find them. Do you believe in other deities? I will tell you why I accept the God of the Bible when you present your facts of evolution. You can’t be serious in your last sentence. You have no knowledge of what I have read, studied, or debated. I am not inferior to you in knowledge or experience, and I have researched for facts of evolution. They don’t exist. You should take a course in Logic 101 before trying to defend a theory as a fact of science
Research of atheism is not necessary, your view of atheism is simply disrespectful to atheists, ensueing that all atheists are to some extent, idiots.
Atheism is someone not believing in a God, and it is literally that simple.
Atheists arent all rude or bad people
I personally respect all religious people and their personal beliefs- and I’m not going to try to convert them to atheism, nor disrespect them and shame them or call them idiots in any way just because I think God is dumb, which i also, do not.
Portraying atheists in such a rude manner only portrays the negative stigma surrounding us, which is even just a portion of us just as it is with religious people, and in truth only reflects that stigma onto the person making the claim.
You claim this stupidity as if were bad or lesser people- and that is incredibly rude, and goes against the equality established by most religions. Please be respectful of others, based off of them being humsn, not what they believe.