#4
Ken Blue
Romans 3:20,28 “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight…. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith wihtout the deeds of the law” Romans 4:3 “Abraham (in the OT) believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness” Romans 5:1 Therefore being justfied by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” Romans 4:5 “…his faith is counted for righteouness” If you read my first response closely I DID answer your every question in regards to what I believe. Salvation has always been and will always be by grace through faith in Christ, whether coming, present or past. (If the reader will note the above answers, he will see that the CONTENT of their faith is absent. By now, I am convinced the brider does not know the answer to the question. He assumes that he has answered it, and then turns to misrepresent and attack me. He implies that I brought up the subject of the church. He mentions the “church” six times before I say one word about it! He wants others to believe that I have a problem with Ruckman, and dispensations. My question for him is crystal clear, but he dare not answer it.) If my original satement of “Ruckmanites believe that people have been saved by different means in different dispensations” is what you have a problem with then you must believe that there has been or will be different ways of getting saved. Since you brought up the church in the wilderness, this confirmed that your true beef is with the main premise of my article (which would make sense because this is the article in which you chose to debate dispensationalism). I know you know the difference between the OT church and “my church” (Matthew 16:18). The fact is that Jesus was building His church during His earthly ministry. He was the cornerstone, the apostles were the foundation, it was being built, it had ordinances, it had a commission but it did not receive the power to fulfill that commission until Pentecost. Did the earth not exist on day one just because there were no plants, no wildlife and no humans? Genesis 1:1 “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void..” But being a hyper-dispensationalist you probably believe there is a “gap” between verses 1 and 2 anyway but my point is that the earth existed before it was complete. The church existed prior to its completeing empowerment in Acts 2. I do not have to “explain from Scripture what was required in each dispensation for salvation” (Note that he refuses to answer the question, or is unable to. One thing for sure; if he answers it, it will drive the final nail in the Baptist bride coffin.) because that is not the aim of this post or the blog. Your only reason for stearing this post that way is to attack my postion on when the church started. If my answers here are not good enough then you do not have to answer my YES or NO questions.
(The answer was NOT good enough. In fact, it was not an answer at all to my original question. However, in my next blog, I do answer his questions, even though he dare not give a Scriptural answer to mine.)
Pastor Ken Blue was born in Boswell, Ark. In 1955 he accepted Christ as his Savior. He and his wife Joyce were married in 1955. They have 5 children. He graduated from Midwestern Baptist Bible College in 1969 and started the Open Door Baptist Church in Lynnwood, Wa. where he pastored for 39 years. Because of health issues (ALS) he was forced to resign as pastor. It is his desire to continue to be used of God to help pastors and believers through this ministry.